How did I miss this, Marcus? And yet I did at the time. Thank you so much for including my posts in your comprehensive exploration. wow! You covered a lot of ground. More than I can take in effectively at this late hour. so I iwll bookmark...deeply appreciate your walking us throught the twelve steps. they were my intorduciton to spirituality. I remember hearing at meetings: Religion is for people afraid of going to hell. Spiritualtiy is for people who have already been there! I can so relate to that! all the best!